tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post8154012227969333162..comments2024-01-26T06:20:22.847-08:00Comments on I Rolled A Zero: The SUE Files: Beyond the KatanasUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-92122463113147610672020-01-20T22:05:44.762-08:002020-01-20T22:05:44.762-08:00To be fair, some edgy sues would absolutely be &qu...To be fair, some edgy sues would absolutely be "For the Evulz" villains, possibly some of them styling themselves after Internet trolls who claim their open, obvious evil is just a form of humor.Ronintendohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13335678853838217038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-54153555169253839952014-04-18T18:07:49.347-07:002014-04-18T18:07:49.347-07:00Hopefully it is not as shit to make them villains....Hopefully it is not as shit to make them villains.ZeRollerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10820203621132179240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-5466411034581458382014-04-17T07:46:30.182-07:002014-04-17T07:46:30.182-07:00Ah, so they enter a pre-existing story, screw up t...Ah, so they enter a pre-existing story, screw up the pre-existing tropes and rules already established, just to make things go they want it to. ... Yeah, there's some shit things like this.Jouralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05889190497135024715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-35286731570099116792014-04-15T15:32:15.889-07:002014-04-15T15:32:15.889-07:00Ah, I see. I had misunderstood it as there being o...Ah, I see. I had misunderstood it as there being only the old-guard and the psychopaths. Thank you for clarifying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-16334466911425596272014-04-14T13:08:47.975-07:002014-04-14T13:08:47.975-07:00They're supposed to run the gamut from total p...They're supposed to run the gamut from total psychopaths to people who are, as Beroli says, firmly villains without being ultra-violent. I ran with the most extreme example to try to get it across that their basic operating premise is deranged and evil, so it's not that far a jump to total psychopathy "justified" by a misguided sense of justice.<br /><br />Incidentally, they were inspired by a trend I've noticed on the Internet to try to claim everything bad that happens was somehow "deserved" rather than come to terms with schadenfreude or, heavens forfend, feel sympathy. Naturally they've been significantly Flanderized, but even then, I perhaps over-stressed their most violently insane extreme to illustrate how they can be made sufficiently villainous for even the darkest games. ZeRollerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10820203621132179240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-62267548181939327952014-04-14T13:02:42.542-07:002014-04-14T13:02:42.542-07:00Not tropes as a general construct. I mean they vio...Not tropes as a general construct. I mean they violate the tropes already operating as conventions of the setting/tone in order to shoehorn in something new. Sorry if that was unclear; it's trying to express how sue-filled stories tend to just throw out everything but the names in order to fit the author's idea of what should happen.ZeRollerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10820203621132179240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-42446245270338113502014-04-12T15:13:23.392-07:002014-04-12T15:13:23.392-07:00... I've actively read several incredibly poor...... I've actively read several incredibly poorly written, sue filled stories, and I've never seen one try to 'break' tropes. They just apply them poorly. In point of fact, it's kind of impossible to 'break' a trope. What does that even mean? Subverting tropes is a trope in and of itself, and actively ignoring them just means not using them(and not all tropes need to be in every story, obviously). The only possible explanation of that description that could possibly make sense is, well, misusing tropes in a way that strips them of their importance. Using rule of perception in a way that doesn't give shorthands and actively takes advantage of a lack of viewer awareness to hide a lack of skill, for example(cough cough Twilight COUGH). Other than that, the rule of X are the only ones that make sense- I'm reminded of fanfics where characters who take advantage of "Rule of Funny" are treated as just being 'magic', or worse still, try to define it.Jouralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05889190497135024715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-13600034291065609432014-04-11T15:33:24.980-07:002014-04-11T15:33:24.980-07:00I'm pretty sure that term was intended to be u...I'm pretty sure that term was intended to be understatement, yes, but...now that you point it out, I think it would be more interesting if, for the vast majority of the Justice Poets, the problem was their focus on punishing the "undeservedly happy" rather than trying to help the undeservedly suffering.<br /><br />Fundamentally, anyone whose sense of justice is offended by there not being enough suffering in the world is already pretty firmly in villain territory, without needing to also be axe crazy.Berolinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-652159872706286862014-04-11T11:55:16.241-07:002014-04-11T11:55:16.241-07:00ZeroRoller has a talent for understatement.ZeroRoller has a talent for understatement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2175768020594264444.post-57778083930769678362014-04-11T11:43:50.510-07:002014-04-11T11:43:50.510-07:00Regarding the Justice Poets: Their sense of propor...Regarding the Justice Poets: Their sense of proportionality has "somewhat degraded"? "Feet first into a woodchipper" strikes me as less "somewhat degraded" and more "extremely insane troll logic". I'm sensing a slippery slope/what do you mean it's not heinous vibe from them, but what's written seems over the top. They're coming off as more like total psychopaths using karma as an excuse to murder people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com